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Claims & Credentials WG - rolling agenda & minutes

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For this call, you are encouraged to turn your video on. This is a good way to build rapport given we are a large, disparate group experiencing a lot of churn.

This document is live-edited DURING each call, and stable/authoritative copies live on our github repo under /agenda.md . Please note that we might not notice a pullrequest in time, but you are free to propose agenda items for future meetings via hackmd.

Meeting information

Future topics:

Topics for upcoming meetings
  • topic 1 (to be discussed on this date)
  • topic 2 (to be discussed on this date)
  • topic n. (tbd)

Meeting Template

  1. Welcome and Introductions
  2. WG Participation Tracking
  3. Workitem Status: PE (v2.0) + Credential Manifest (1pm ET Thu)
    • Work Item Leads: Brent Zundel (@brentzundel) & Daniel Buchner (@csuwildcat)
  4. Workitem Status: Data Agreements
    • Work Item Leads: Jan Lindquist (@janlin) & José San Juan (@jose-gataca)
  5. Workitem Status (weekly): Trust Establishment
    • Work Item Leads: Gabe Cohen (@decentralgabe) & Mike Ebert (@mikekebert)
  6. Workitem Status (Monthly): [JWT-VC Interoperability Profile](https://github.com/decentralized-identity/jwt-vc-presentation-profile/issues, https://identity.foundation/jwt-vc-presentation-profile/)
    • Work Item Leads: Daniel McGrogan (@dtmcg), Kristina Yasuda (@Sakurann), Jeremie Miller (@quartzjer)
  7. Workitem Status (weekly) Schema Directory
    • Work Item Leads: Daniel Buchner (@csuwildcat) & Jack Couch (@JackSophtron)
  8. Dormant and/or "paused" work
  9. New business

Meeting 6 December 2022 - (1300 ET)

  1. Welcome and Introductions
  2. WG Participation Tracking
  3. Workitem Status: PE (v2.0) + Credential Manifest (1pm ET Thu)
    • Work Item Leads: Brent Zundel (@brentzundel) & Daniel Buchner (@csuwildcat)
    • Credential Manifest moving forward (Issues in Repository were triaged) -> Release for 1.0
    • Presentation exchange v2.0 is out.
    • No direct plans for v3.0. In the new year focus on documenation, implementation guides, etc
  4. Workitem Status: Wallet Rendering:
    • Credential Manifest points to Wallet Rendering specification (but no hard dependency).
    • Acknowledged requirement for Credential Manifest.
    • Interest from Block (from 2023).
    • Create Workitem description. (in 2023), Ownership, Times, Prior Art.
  5. Workitem Status: Data Agreements
    • Work Item Leads: Jan Lindquist (@janlin) & José San Juan (@jose-gataca)
    • Presentations around Prior Art.
    • The Group's running notes are very thorough!
  6. Workitem Status (weekly): Trust Establishment
    • Work Item Leads: Gabe Cohen (@decentralgabe) & Mike Ebert (@mikekebert)
    • Submitted for Workgroup approval (Integration of Feedback from Juan)
    • Focus to cut a draft version
  7. Workitem Status (Monthly): [JWT-VC Interoperability Profile](https://github.com/decentralized-identity/jwt-vc-presentation-profile/issues, https://identity.foundation/jwt-vc-presentation-profile/)
    • Work Item Leads: Daniel McGrogan (@dtmcg), Kristina Yasuda (@Sakurann), Jeremie Miller (@quartzjer)
    • PR for v0.1.0 is up (that points to the dependend legacy specification like PE (1.0))
    • Latest draft will then utilize and point to newer specifications of, PE, SIOP, ...
  8. Workitem Status (weekly) Schema Directory
    • Work Item Leads: Daniel Buchner (@csuwildcat) & Jack Couch (@JackSophtron) & Martin Riedel (@rado0x54)
    • Last meeting was chat only.
    • Waiting for the following deliverables:
      • Process definition for adding Schemas to the registry (@rado0x54)
      • Use the data registry template as the creator has wished for :)
  9. Dormant and/or "paused" work
    • (v1; meetings paused) WACI-DIDComm
    • (v1; meetings paused) VC-JWT & Friends
    • (transitioned, non started) Verifier Universal Interface (VUI) 10 Current events (CCG mailing list, VCWG, OWF, OIDF, etc)
    • Optional "@context" Thread
    • Holder Binding Thread ("Subject is represented by X, but can bind itself to Y during presentation of VC C")\
    • DID Methods with threshold signatures
  10. New business

Meeting 25 November 2022 - (1300 ET)

Meeting was skipped due to low attendance

Prepared Agenda

  1. Welcome and Introductions
  2. WG Participation Tracking
  3. Workitem Status: PE (v2.0) + Credential Manifest (1pm ET Thu)
  4. Workitem Status: Data Agreements
  5. Tracking: [Verifier Universal Interface (VUI)] - first meeting as ongoing work item coming soon!
  6. Workitem Status (weekly): Trust Establishment
  7. Workitem Status (Monthly): [JWT-VC Interoperability Profile](https://github.com/decentralized-identity/jwt-vc-presentation-profile/issues, https://identity.foundation/jwt-vc-presentation-profile/)
  8. Workitem Status (weekly) Schema Directory
  9. Dormant and/or "paused" work
  10. TPAC W3C DIDWG+VCWG update from Brent
  11. New business

Meeting 11 November 2022 - (1300 ET)

  1. Welcome and Introductions
  2. WG Participation Tracking
  3. Workitem Status: PE (v2.0) + Credential Manifest (1pm ET Thu)
  4. Workitem Status: Data Agreements
  5. Tracking: [Verifier Universal Interface (VUI)] - first meeting as ongoing work item coming soon!
  6. Workitem Status (weekly): Trust Establishment
  7. Workitem Status (Monthly): [JWT-VC Interoperability Profile](https://github.com/decentralized-identity/jwt-vc-presentation-profile/issues, https://identity.foundation/jwt-vc-presentation-profile/)
  8. Workitem Status (weekly) Schema Directory
  9. Dormant and/or "paused" work
  10. TPAC W3C DIDWG+VCWG update from Brent
  11. New business

Meeting 11 October 2022 - (1300 ET)

Posponed due to attendance

Meeting 27 September 2022 - (1300 ET)

  1. Welcome and Introductions
  2. WG Participation Tracking
  3. Workitem Status: PE (v2.0) + Credential Manifest (1pm ET Thu)
    • Last two meetings did not take part.
    • Credential Rendering is not a requirement for using PR. Daniel posted PR.
  4. Workitem Status: Data Agreements
    • Put in updates around the spec progress.
  5. Workitem Status (weekly): Trust Establishment
    • Waiting for couple of contributions
    • Sam Curran reaching out to ToIP to reuse elements.
  6. Workitem Status (Monthly): JWT-VC Interoperability Profile
    • Triaging of existing issues.
    • Assigned v1 blocking issues to responsible person.
    • Fixed discrepency between profile and OIDP PE v2 dependency. Some implementers were implementing against PE v1.
  7. Workitem Status (weekly) Schema Directory
    • Kickoff meeting, hurrary!
    • First website framework to go online to hold schemas.
    • Write process outline to add schemas to the schema directory.
  8. Dormant and/or "paused" work
  9. RWOT11, the Hague.
    • Holder Binding for Credential Presentation Paper (Oliver)
    • Trust Establishment Paper is happening (Juan referred to DIF)
    • On-Chain credential revocation registry.
  10. New business

Meeting 13 September 2022 - (1300 ET)

  1. Welcome and Introductions
  2. WG Participation Tracking
  3. Workitem Status: PE (v2.0) + Credential Manifest (1pm ET Thu)
  4. Workitem Status: Data Agreements
  5. Tracking: [Verifier Universal Interface (VUI)] - first meeting as ongoing work item coming soon!
  6. Workitem Status (weekly): Trust Establishment
  7. Workitem Status (Monthly): [JWT-VC Interoperability Profile](https://github.com/decentralized-identity/jwt-vc-presentation-profile/issues, https://identity.foundation/jwt-vc-presentation-profile/)
  8. Dormant and/or "paused" work
    • (v1; meetings paused) WACI-DIDComm
    • (v1; meetings paused) VC-JWT & Friends
      • VC WG has split out the specification into its on repo. Has a lot of activity in it.
    • (are there meetings?) Schema Directory
      • Not so domrmant
      • From next week 22nd weekly meeting
      • 9am PT
      • Martin to send out email
  9. New business
    • Gabe going to TPAC
      • Doing presentation on schemas will share out meeting notes when available

Rebooting the Web of Trust Advanced Paper Report

Entire advanced-paper collection here. Likely of interest to participants in or followers of this WG:

Meeting 30 August 2022 - (1300 ET)

  1. Welcome and Introductions
  2. WG Participation Tracking
  3. Workitem Status: PE (v2.0) + Credential Manifest (1pm ET Thu)
  4. Workitem Status: Data Agreements
  5. Tracking: [Verifier Universal Interface (VUI)]
  6. Workitem Status (weekly): Trust Establishment
  7. Workitem Status (Monthly): [JWT-VC Interoperability Profile](https://github.com/decentralized-identity/jwt-vc-presentation-profile/issues, https://identity.foundation/jwt-vc-presentation-profile/)
  8. Dormant and/or "paused" work
  9. New business

Meeting 2 August 2022 - (1300 ET)

  1. Welcome and Introductions
  2. WG Participation Tracking
  3. Workitem Status: PE (v2.0) + Credential Manifest (1pm ET Thu)
  • SC Version 2.0 Ready to Review.
  • CM another few weeks.
  1. Workitem Status: Data Agreements
  2. Tracking: [Verifier Universal Interface (VUI)]
  3. Workitem Status (DORMANT): WACI-DIDComm
  4. Workitem Status (DORMANT): VC-JWT & Friends
  5. Workitem Status (no regular time set yet but check Slack channel): Schema Directory
  6. Workitem Status (weekly): Trust Establishment
  7. Workitem Status (Monthly): [JWT-VC Interoperability Profile](https://github.com/decentralized-identity/jwt-vc-presentation-profile/issues, https://identity.foundation/jwt-vc-presentation-profile/)
  8. New business
  9. No Biweekly Meeting on Working Group no Meeting Aug 16.

Meeting 19 July 2022 - (1300 ET)

  1. Welcome and Introductions
  2. WG Participation Tracking
  3. Workitem Status: PE (v2.0) + Credential Manifest (1pm ET Thu)
    • PE
      • V2 is done
      • PR in place to get it working group approved
      • More redable
      • Next step in DIF
      • Brent Merged on the call like a gangster
      • Next step regular SC
    • CM
      • Triaged all open issues
      • Identified v1 blockers
      • end of the month is the target for v1
  4. Workitem Status: Data Agreements
    • Is proceeding based on how many PRs
    • further updates to follow
  5. Tracking: [Verifier Universal Interface (VUI)]
    • Martin to update
  6. Workitem Status (DORMANT): WACI-DIDComm
    • Unoffically offically have a draft
    • still dormant
  7. Workitem Status (DORMANT): VC-JWT & Friends
    • still dormant
  8. Workitem Status (no regular time set yet but check Slack channel): Schema Directory
    • Still waiting on meeting
    • Gabe to hassle DB
  9. Workitem Status (weekly): Trust Establishment
    • Draft has been prepared
      • Sentiment decleartion
      • Which issuers are trusted for which credentials
      • Embed trust documents into larger frameworks
    • Activly looking at other usecase to expand past
  10. Workitem Status (Monthly): [JWT-VC Interoperability Profile](https://github.com/decentralized-identity/jwt-vc-presentation-profile/issues, https://identity.foundation/jwt-vc-presentation-profile/)
    • Grinding down issues
  11. New business

Meeting 5 July 2022 - (1300 ET)

  1. Welcome and Introductions
  2. WG Participation Tracking
  3. Workitem Status: PE (v2.0) + Credential Manifest (1pm ET Thu)
    • PE V2.0 WG ratification
    • Chair annoucement in Channel.
  4. Workitem Status: Data Agreements
  5. Tracking: [Verifier Universal Interface (VUI)] (https://identity.foundation/vui)
  6. Workitem Status (DORMANT): WACI-DIDComm
  7. Workitem Status (DORMANT): VC-JWT & Friends
    • Getting ready for VC(2) Working Group.
    • People have added themselves to the testsuite.
  8. Workitem Status (no regular time set yet but check Slack channel): Schema Directory
    • Announce regular meeting interval as soon as the group is ready to start
  9. Workitem Status (weekly): Trust Establishment
    • Relation to Schema Directory Workitem.
  10. Workitem Status (Monthly): [JWT-VC Interoperability Profile](https://github.com/decentralized-identity/jwt-vc-presentation-profile/issues, https://identity.foundation/jwt-vc-presentation-profile/)

Meeting 21 June 2022 - (1300 ET)

  1. Welcome and Introductions
    • Identiverse + NFT.NYC = low DIF attendance across the board
  2. WG Participation Tracking
  3. Workitem Status: PE (2.0) + Credential Manifest (1pm ET Thu)
    • Registry issue - also example JSON Schema should include more examples
    • v2 coming soon!
  4. Workitem Status: Data Agreements
    • steady work!
  5. Verifier Universal Interface (VUI) tracking
    • status: pending
  6. Workitem Status (DORMANT): WACI-DIDComm
  7. Workitem Status (DORMANT): VC-JWT & Friends
  8. Workitem Status (no regular time set yet but check Slack channel): Schema Directory
  9. Workitem Status (weekly): Trust Establishment
    • straw man PRs incoming, still early enough to jump!
  10. Workitem Status (Monthly): JWT-VC Interoperability Profile
    • next meeting: processing 15 fresh issues against strawman --> v1.0
  11. New business

Meeting - 7 June 2022 - (1300 ET)

  1. Welcome and Introductions
  2. WG Participation Tracking
  3. Decision Workitem Proposal: [Schema Directory]
    • Wait for feedback to proposal - need second owner
    • template ready to go
  4. Workitem: Trust Establishment specs and protocols
  5. Workitem: Presentation Exchange (& CM)
    • Extensibility
      • intent to retain (OIDC4VP and mDL interop issues) - trying to find a way to ease it into an optional feature
    • Racing towards feature freeze; issue triage proceeding at a healthy clip
  6. Workitem: Data Agreements
    • No meeting
  7. Workitem Status (DORMANT): WACI-DIDComm
    • Dormant for BBS+/DIDComm
  8. Workitem Status (DORMANT): VC-JWT & Friends
  9. New Workitem: JWT-VC Interop Profile 1st Meeting
    • Next Meeting: Jun 15th.
  10. Status Proposal: Verifier Universal Interface (VUI) tracking
    • Waiting for Feedback from Irene
    • Got the feedback: Upload VUI code to DIF within the week. Coordinated by Paul as well.
  11. Discussion Point: Soul Bound Token Whitepaper worthy of a DIF response?

Meeting - 24 May 2022 - (1300 ET)

  1. Welcome and Introductions
  2. WG Participation Tracking
  3. Decision Workitem Proposal: Schema Directory
  1. Decision Workitem Proposal: Trust Establishment specs and protocols
  • Accepted and Merged
  1. Workitem Status: PE (2.0) + Credential Manifest (1pm ET Thu)
  • Working on open PRs
  • Feedback Mike Ebert around Presentation Exchange (will raise Issue)
  1. Workitem Data Agreements
  2. Verifier Universal Interface (VUI) tracking
  3. Workitem Status (DORMANT): WACI-DIDComm
  4. Workitem Status (Biweekly): VC-JWT & Friends

Meeting - 10 May 2022 - (1300 ET)

  1. Welcome and Introductions
  2. WG Participation Tracking
  3. Workitem Status: PE (2.0) + Credential Manifest (1pm ET Thu)
    • Call PE 2.0 feedback
    • June 30th final date for feedback
  4. Workitem Data Agreements
    • trying to reconcile two differtn implmenrations
    • working implmentation is driving work
  5. Verifier Universal Interface (VUI) tracking
    • To follow up with Martin
  6. Workitem Proposal: reactivate the Credential Taxonomy item under the name Schema Directory
    • Alot of interest to get this restarted
    • Request from companies to have a resource to point to "existing" schema or a single resource for schemas
    • Have active contributors who want to make additions
    • Brent
      • DIF doest have a process for registries or living documents
      • Choice is to use what tools do exit
      • Currently needs to go through working group approved
    • Will bring to TSC to try and define a process
    • DB will create a work item proposal PR
    • kickoff meeting ASAP after that
  7. Workitem Proposal: Trust Establishment specs and protocols
    • IIW session and hackmd file
    • spec to define reputation exchange/transferible trust mechanism (potentially )
    • Gabe Cohen ; Trinsic
    • Gabe Cohen will create a work item proposal PR
  8. Workitem Status (DORMANT): WACI-DIDComm
  9. Workitem Status (Biweekly): VC-JWT & Friends
    • NEW TIME: Thursdays 2pm EST (starting in two days, with a live demo from Orie)
  10. New business - Work Item Proposals
    • #11 - LGTM/LFG
    • kick off meeting wen
  11. IIW Review - Collective highlights reporting
    • Federated/SSI conflicts mostly civil (one exception in one of Tim Ruff's sessions)
    • mucho KERI (and AC/DC) - barage of new sub-specs with acronym titles for various layers and parts
    • lots of GNAP and DPOP sessions
    • Block pushing hard on DWN work
    • INDICIO machine-readable governance framework (implementation uses PE)
    • mDL/mDOCs poised to eat the world
      • PE could handle mDL payloads with a few tweaks! design goal for PEv3

Meeting - 3 May 2022 - (1300 ET)

  • meeting moving to TUESDAYS ()

Meeting - 26 Apr 2022 - (1300 ET)

  • cancelled for IIW

Meeting - 11 April 2022 - (1300 ET)

  1. Welcome and Introductions
  2. WG Participation Tracking
  3. C&C Biweekly Time Update: Reason: Chair conflicts.
  • Agreement: In two Week change to Tues 1pm ET. 3May.
  1. Workitem Status: PE (2.0) + Credential Manifest (1pm ET Thu)
  2. Workitem Data Agreements (8am ET Thu)
    • Cross PE Issue. Highlight in PE meeting on 21 April.
    • Next call on Thursday is cancelled due to Easter.
    • Interest from MyData Community
  3. Verifier Universal Interface (VUI) tracking
    • No update. Waiting for Feedback and Workitem Proposal.
  4. Workitem Status (DORMANT): WACI-PEX - notes
    • No update.
  5. Workitem Status (Biweekly): JWS Test Suite notes
    • CBOR/COSE discussions adjacently discussed. (More VC spec working group)
  6. VC Protocol discussion. OpenID, CHAPI, etc.

Meeting - 28 March 2022 - (1300 ET)

  1. Welcome and Introductions
    • Martin
    • Juan
    • Lance Byrd - rootsid - rootswallet
    • Liran Cohen - Independent
    • Harrison - Spokeo
  2. WG Participation Tracking
  3. C&C Biweekly Time Update: Reason: Chair conflicts. Change from in 4 weeks. (or 3 weeks to be the other week to SDS.)
    • Tuesdays, 1pm ET
    • Wednesday, 1pm ET (outside of SDS Implementers call)
  4. Workitem Status: PE (2.0) + Credential Manifest (1pm ET Thu)
  5. Workitem Data Agreements (8am ET Thu)
    • Update from Jan
  6. Verifier Universal Interface (VUI) tracking
    • Get in Workitem Proposal to C&C
    • Find Biweekly Time.
  7. Workitem Status (DORMANT): WACI-PEX - notes
    • Maybe un-dormanted. Check out today's meetings.
  8. Workitem Status (Done): JWS Test Suite notes
    • Meeting stills taking place.
    • Gabe - Block implementation of JWT-VC
    • Input for more normative JWT Section within the VC 2.0 spec.
  9. VC Protocol discussion. OpenID, CHAPI, etc.
    • Call session @IIW.
    • Next Generation of OIDF Standards - WG

Meeting - 14 March 2022 - (1300 ET)

  1. Welcome and Introductions
  2. WG Participation Tracking
  3. DONE-ISH Workitem Status: JWS Test Suite notes
    • no update
  4. DORMANT Workitem Status: WACI-PEX - notes
    • no update
  5. Workitem Status: PE (2.0) + Credential Manifest
    • Jan raise an issue on PE & PR to add guidence to the current field & that it will be expanded, with work from data agreements WI
    • Clarificaion on the requirments of the use of Presentation Submission as it related to Presentation Def (you need to use it)
  6. Workitem Data Agreements
    • Jan still coordinating
    • A slot has been assigned but it hasnt been added to calandar + adding auto recording
  7. Verifier Universal Interface (VUI) tracking
    • Martin to update
  8. [If time allows] Discuss Credential Taxonomy --> Schema

Meeting - 28 February 2022 - (1300 ET)

  1. Welcome and Introductions
  2. WG Participation Tracking
  3. Workitem Status: JWS Test Suite notes
  4. Workitem Status: WACI-PEX - notes
    • Still on hold
  5. Workitem Status: PE (2.0) + Credential Manifest
    • Review of 2.0
  6. Workitem Data Agreements
    • Not officially started yet.
    • GitHub Repo (@Chris)
    • Calendar Entry for regular meetings (Thursday 14:00 - 15:00 CET)
    • 17.3. as first meeting.
    • Relation to "PE" Purpose
    • Creation of Issue in PE on extension of Purpose.
  7. Verifier Universal Interface (VUI) tracking
    • Blocker around legal IPR sign-off
  8. Discuss DIF F:F feedback and conversation.
    • There will be a session by session split of the recording(s).
  9. Discuss Profiles (Martin)
    • Profiles becoming more and more important in the space.
    • Profile in Data Agreement !== Profile to restrict the technology stack
  10. Discuss Credential Taxonomy --> Schema
  11. [If time allows] IANA registration for JWAs needed for EIP712 and/or conventional eth sigs (ES256 + Keccak)?

Meeting - 14 February 2022 - (1300 ET)

Valentine's Day Edition💘:

  1. Welcome and Introductions
  2. WG Participation Tracking
  3. Interop Profile Donation Presentation
  • summary in one slide:
  1. Workitem Status: JWS Test Suite notes
    • work has been done for a while. still meeting to discuss up and down stream issues.
    • currently discussing VC Working group charter issues.
      • how the non-normative examples can help implmentation
      • the next 1-3 meeting will be about vc working group charters discussions
  2. Workitem Status: WACI-PEX
    • currently taking a small break while some dependencies sort out
    • some BBS+ implmenations have surfaced issues in the core specs
    • Finished presenation & have made progress on issuance stack
  3. Workitem Status: PE (2.0) + Schema Directory
  4. Workitem Status: Credential Manifest + Wallet Rendering
    • Closed PRs and issues
  5. Approval: Verifier Universal Interface (VUI) tracking (first meeting Thursday)
    • Signoff process to be followed up on by Balazs
    • SF lab regular meeting are being wound down
    • more official announcment at DIF F:F
    • Work item PR will be set up aginst the c&c repo by Irene
  6. WG status on DIF F2F - Group Presentation (20min)
    • Template for presentation will be sent out this week.
    • Chairs will create a slide for each work item and send it out to each work item lead

Meeting - 31st January 2022 - (1300 ET)

  1. Welcome and Introductions
  2. WG Participation Tracking
  3. Workitem Status: JWS Test Suite notes
  4. Workitem Status: WACI-PEX
    • next steps a little unclear due to some upstream blockages
    • debate about renaming to waci-didcomm now that it includes issuance; profile versus spec? hard to point to issuance normally in any one place
      • Daniel: Bigger problem of the whole family of specs, non?
    • Will report back more clearly on end-goals/end-states
  5. Workitem Status: PE (2.0) + Credential Manifest
    • PE v2: PR up for Review. Layered based rework for PE. Enables to implement a "subset" of the overall protocol.
    • CM slow. Enforce 50/50 split and have "overrun" time / second time.
    • 3.0 request being walked back (changes might not be that severe)
  6. Workitem Status: Wallet Rendering
    • will be discussed in the CM half of PE meeting times
    • no updates this week. small backlog of issues to start with this thursday
  7. Verifier Universal Interface (VUI) tracking
    • Follow up by Martin
  8. Discuss Proposed Work Item - PresEx/WACI/CM Profile ?
    • [Data agreement] (#10) - Jan + Jose
      • Group: Please provide feedback to the proposal.
      • Reshare Jan Demo. (See notes for 10 dec below.)
      • First meeting (if approved) for Thursday Feb 17; will open repos in the meantime
  9. DIF F2F - Group Presentation (20min) - Report out.
    • 1 Slide per Workitem
      • Including New & Upcoming Workitem Proposals
      • Also include closed/"failed" workitems?
    • Propose Workshop / Demos
    • Move "dormant" Workitems into dedicated session or a workshop to recruit revivers?
    • Proposal
    • Session Timetable (subject to change)
  10. DIF VC Schema Directory.
  11. Interop Profile Introduction
    • Allow the introduction/donation of a profile worked on by MS/Workday/...

Meeting - 17th January 2022 - (1300 ET)

  1. Welcome and Introductions
  2. WG Participation Tracking
  3. Workitem Status: JWS Test Suite notes
    • next meeting (timing uncertain) will demo mnemonic/HD-path stuff
  4. Workitem Status: WACI-PEX -
    • blocked upstream, issuance solid
  5. Workitem Status: PE (2.0) + Credential Manifest
    • David Chadwick's Simplified PE Profile
      • Layering, simple core and push some stuff into "extensions" and full-profile
    • 3.0 OFF THE TABLE
    • Too much PE and not enough CM
  6. Verifier Universal Interface (VUI) tracking
    • Meeting will [maybe] starting in Feb? ESSIF-LAB spins down in next 2 weeks
    • Martin following up
  7. Discuss Proposed Work Item - Data Agreement protocol
    • work item proposal in google docs
    • Juan and Jan will meet before next meeting to go over work item proposal & github/IPR logistics
  8. Discuss Proposed Work Item - Split CM & Wallet Rendering?
    • Jace happy to commit to more meetings
    • Wallet Rendering - separate repo/spec, should probably be a separate work item per se
  9. Discuss Credential Taxonomy --> Schema
    • outbound/upstream schemata = preferred, at least at the beginning
    • registry-style, PR in your own row

Meeting - 3rd January 2022 - NO MEETING

Meeting - 20th December 2021 - (1300 ET) -

  1. Welcome and Introductions
  2. WG Participation Tracking
  3. Workitem Status: JWS Test Suite notes
    • core work done
    • 1/3 meeting cancelled; next meeting 1/17
  4. Workitem Status: WACI-PEX - off this week, swift progress on Issuance extension
    • today's meeting cancelled
    • v0.1 has been cut and will be published when the pr is merged
  5. Workitem Status: PE (2.0) + Credential Manifest
  6. Verifier Universal Interface (VUI) tracking
    • no update?
  7. Workshopping New Work Item proposal for Data Agreement work (not quite quorum today)
  8. No meeting 1/3

Meeting - 10th December 2021 - ESSIF-LAB Consent Record Demo

Recording

Description: Data Agreement demoes from NGI ESSIF-LAB sub-grantees iGrant.io, Gataca and the Human Colossus Foundation. These three demo'd implementations demonstrate how a consent notice (or "data agreement" as it was called in the ESSIF-LAB context) gets signed as a shared record between issuers/verifiers (data controllers) and holders (data subjects). The data agreement sets a clear purpose of usage, what personal data is collected, how long data can be retained and on what lawful basis it can be processed; both parties keep a record, allowing precise GDPR enforcement and transparency on all sides.

The data agreement was originally based on the Kantara Initiative's Consent Notice, which is now being standardized as a new ISO standard 27560. All DIF members are welcome to the demo to better understand what data agreements are and how it has was implemented using VC technology by the NGI essif-lab participants. The meeting will be recorded and archived as a meeting of the Claims & Credentials WG.

Minutes - 10th December 2021 - ESSIF-LAB Consent Record Demo - Raw Recording - Youtube Recording

  • Presentation/context
    • Data agreement automation for GDPR/DPIA purposes
    • Flow
  • Demo: PrivacyAnt product
    • Travel Agent dashboard <> iGrant.io personal wallet (Aries) <> Vaxx info from
      • vocab info anchored to CCG vacc vocab

Meeting - 6th December 2021 - (1300 ET) -

  1. Welcome and Introductions
  2. ESSIF-LAB Consent Record Demo - Friday - just waiting on final [re]-confirmation
  3. WG Participation Tracking
  4. Workitem Status: JWS Test Suite notes
  5. Workitem Status: WACI-PEX - off this week, swift progress on Issuance extension
  6. Workitem Status: PE (2.0) + Credential Manifest
  7. Verifier Universal Interface (VUI) tracking

Minutes - 6th December 2021 - (1300 ET) - Recording

  1. Welcome and Introductions
  2. ESSIF-LAB Consent Record Demo - Friday - just waiting on final [re]-confirmation
  3. WG Participation Tracking
  4. Workitem Status: JWS Test Suite notes
    • today was largely about the test-by-test consequences of "instead of or in addition to" ambiguity in JWT expression of credentials as defined by the JWT section of the VC data model v1.1; see the notes for
  5. Workitem Status: WACI-PEX - off this week, swift progress on Issuance extension
    • waiting on a lot of upstream blockers
      • BBS+ blocking both presentation and issuance now
    • meeting later today if you want to contribute to a more agnostic/multi-ZKP PR?
  6. Workitem Status: PE (2.0) + Credential Manifest
    • PE v2 moving forward
    • At last CM meeting, PE mostly pre-empted (kinks around OIDF usage)
  7. Verifier Universal Interface (VUI) tracking
    • Waiting for sign-off on IPR from all donors still?

Meeting - 22nd November 2021 - (1300 ET)

  1. Welcome and Introductions
  2. Juan stepping up as C&C chair?
  3. WG Participation Tracking
  4. Workitem Status: JWS Test Suite notes
  5. Workitem Status: WACI-PEX - off this week, swift progress on Issuance extension
  6. Workitem Status: PE (2.0) + Credential Manifest
  7. Verifier Universal Interface (VUI) tracking

Minutes - 22nd November 2021 - (1300 ET) Recording

  1. Welcome and Introductions
    • Jan Lindquist: Consent Records <> VUI; working with DIF members iGrant.io, an ISO WG, and the TOIP consent/privacy WG to standardize on semantics of consent records; ESSIF-LAB context for all this work (Gataca and HCF); ETSI context on EU data sharing
  2. Juan stepping up as C&C chair?
    • notes are 100% better with Juan here
  3. WG Participation Tracking
  4. Workitem Status: JWS Test Suite notes
  5. Workitem Status: WACI-PEX - off this week, swift progress on Issuance extension
    • Blocked by BBS+ AppCry (sig suite) and implementation (Mattr, danyam)
      • RDF canonicalization panicking at blank nodes; blank nodes also leaky of info, in the opinion of the JWP group at AppCry WG and others (not just number of blanks against schema, but also how unique IDs are assigned to blank nodes from their k/v names)
    • Martin: exact relationship to BBS+? Sine qua non? Brent: No, the BBS+ was always planned as the first of many ZKP profiles to be defined and targetted... other ZKPs might come soon, there are people working on the item working on/familiar with multiple ZKP systems
    • Possibility of intermediate goal (e.g. using LD Framing without BBS+)
  6. Workitem Status: PE (2.0) + Credential Manifest
    • OIDC input largely incorporated on PE; they're starting on CM (pre-v1) now;
      • Martin: How much of the v2-v1 diff come from the OIDC group? Brent: I wanna say 3/4? Much of what they requested actually ended up with very few breaking/normative changes, a few MUSTs becoming SHOULDs and vice versa; also greatly informed the PE<>CM division of labor
    • PE <> WACI still being considered/discussed
    • CM still kinda taking shape as people bring their use-cases and requirements
      • Martin: e.g. how static are they? cacheable? archival? mutable/dynamic?
      • Brent: Display utility versus query-by-example-like use-cases
  7. Verifier Universal Interface (VUI) tracking
    • shooting for beginning of January for work to continue here in C&C
    • exact status unknown, but waiting on 100% clean-IPR before hand-off and work continuing here

Meeting - 8th November 2021 - (1300 ET)

  1. Welcome and Introductions
  2. Wayne stepping down as C&C chair
  3. Chair Nominations
  4. WG Participation Tracking
  5. Workitem Status: JWS Test Suite
  6. Workitem Status: WACI-PEX
  7. Workitem Status: PE (2.0) + Credential Manifest
  8. Workitem Status: VC Marketplace
  9. Verifier Universal Interface (VUI) tracking

Minutes - 8th November 2021 - (1300 ET) Recording

  1. Welcome and Introductions
  2. Wayne stepping down as C&C chair
  3. Chair Nominations - Juan Caballero (Spruce)
    • barring objections or other nominations, the nomination has tentative WG consensus. reach out to chairs by 11/15 at the latest or ideally by 11/12 if you have concerns or other candidates for WG chair.
  4. WG Participation Tracking
  5. Workitem Status: JWS Test Suite (update from Juan)
    • good progress - spruce and msft PRing in testing artefacts and vectors for both JWS signatures and full VC-JWT
    • an upstream spec ambiguity in signature mechanics ("small s /big S" key types from the same curve) see recording for that work item or tracking issues on GH.
      • since this is strictly upstream and beyond scope, it will just be noted in the JWS test suite docs and a tracking issue opened to monitor for upstream progress or resolution.
      • possible DIF blog post explaining the ambiguity and suggesting possible resolutions (mandate normalization from the heavens?) forthcoming
  6. Workitem Status: WACI-PEX (update from Brent)
    • draft status on the PE portion of WACI-PEx, but hit some blank-node-related roadblocks on low-level BBS+ mechanism that impeded a reference implementation being testable
      • upstream fixes and PRs: hoping to target a future iteration of the signature suite and ref implementation thereof that resolves these glitches and ambiguities
    • Shifting focus to issuance; PRs coming fast already
  7. Workitem Status: PE (2.0) + Credential Manifest (update from Brent)
    • OIDF group feedback being folded into PE v2, which has entailed significant discussion and fine-tuning and implementer feedback
    • CM also receiving feedback from implementers towards v1
    • reminder: meeting time organically shifts between 75/25 and 25/75 timeshare between the two work items
  8. Workitem Status: VC Marketplace (update from Martin, who recently checked in with )
    • meetings are long-since concluded
    • the WG is going to end with a blog deliverable, which may include a DIF blog post summarizing a longer Affinidi blog post
  9. Verifier Universal Interface (VUI) tracking
    • somewhat pro-forma IPR mechanics are ongoing to get clean IPR on entirity of donation (which might be the entire VUI or a subset if needed for clean IPR)
    • Work and momentum to continue and focus on integration with other DIF specs (in partic PEx) after ESSIF-LAB spins down and work begins here Jan 2022ish
  10. Other topics
    • possibility of other interop profiles being donated (from, say, TIP program at TOIP, or BMWi, or...); debate over hosting them in interop WG, or whether these might require IPR for ongoing work
      • discussion ongoing at Technical Steering Committee

Meeting - 13 Sept 2021 - (1300 ET) Recording To Follow

  1. Welcome and Introductions
  2. WG Participation Tracking
  3. Workitem Status: JWS Test Suite
  4. Workitem Status: WACI-PEX
  5. Workitem Status: PE (Maintenance) + Credential Manifest
  6. Workitem Status: VC Marketplace
  7. Verifier Universal Interface (VUI) initiative discussion

Meeting - 23 August 2021 - (1300 ET) Recording To Follow

  1. Welcome and Introductions
  2. WG Participation Tracking
  3. DIF Grant #1: Winner Announcement Transmute Technologies + New Workitem: JWS Testsuite
  4. Workitem Status: WACI-PEX
  5. Workitem Status: PE (Maintenance) + Credential Manifest
  6. Workitem Status: VC Marketplace

Minutes

  1. DIF Grant: Orie on Holiday. Next Steps: Setup JWS Testsuite Workitem Agenda + Timeline within C&C Repo. 5a. DIF and OIDC joined PE V2-Version:
  • Knocked down major issues
  • Overall a v2 will try to have as little breaking changes as possible
  • Timeline: First Draft Version in 2 months.
  • Application within VC-HTTP-API 5b. Credential Manifest work currently downprioed in favor of PE v2. OIDC input around Credential Provider.
  1. Recommended Schema Set for DIF. MS requires something around this within the next two months.
  • Employment, Education, ID
  • Next Steps: Open issue within C&C to outline the Workitem.
  • What domain?
  • What dependencies to other schema platform.
  • Define extend: LD + Input Validation?
  • Reach out to DIF members that have domain expertise (e.g. Workday for Education / Employment)
  • Open Issue or PR to workitem folder. Loop in people there. (@Wayne)
  • Also review/use existing external definitions (e.g. https://schema.org/EmployeeRole)

Meeting - 9 August 2021 - (1300 ET) Recording To Follow

  1. Welcome and Introductions
  2. WG Participation Tracking
  3. Workitem Status: WACI-PEX
  4. Workitem Status: PE (Maintenance) + Credential Manifest
  5. Workitem Status: VC Marketplace
  6. DIF Grant : Blog post - Update on submissions

Meeting - 26 July 2021 - (1300 ET) Recording To Follow

  1. Welcome and Introductions
  2. WG Participation Tracking
  3. Workitem Status: WACI-PEX
  4. Workitem Status: PE (Maintenance) + Credential Manifest
  5. Workitem Status: VC Marketplace
  6. DIF Grant #1: Blog post - Discussion of scope and application process
  7. Request for clarity/bibliography from VC-HTTP-API group at CCG - how can C&C help

Meeting - 12 July 2021 - (1300 ET) meeting cancelled

Meeting - 28th June 2021 - (1300 ET) Recording

  1. Welcome and introductions
  2. WG Participation Tracking
  3. Workitem Status: WACI-PEX
  4. Workitem Status: PE (Maintenance) + Credential Manifest
  5. Workitem Status: VC Marketplace
  6. PE issue-triage/discussion OIDF (date time)
  7. Outlook / Next Steps

Meeting - 14 June 2021 - (1300 ET) Recording

  1. Welcome and introductions
  2. Update C&C meeting is now 30 mins
  3. WG Participation Tracking
  4. Workitem Status: WACI-PEX
  5. Workitem Status: PE (Maintenance) + Credential Manifest
  6. Workitem Status: VC Marketplace
  7. Discussion: Covid Vaccination Pass Story (Snorre Lothar von Gohren Edwin (Diwala))
  8. Outlook / Next Steps

Meeting - 17 May 2021 - (1300 ET) Recording

  1. Welcome and introductions
  2. WG Participation Tracking
  3. Workitem Status: WACI-PEX
  4. Workitem Status: PE (Maintenance) + Credential Manifest
  5. Workitem Status: VC Marketplace
  6. Outlook / Next Steps

Meeting - 3 May 2021 - (1300 ET) Recording

  1. Welcome and introductions
  2. WG Participation Tracking
  3. New Workitem: WACI-PEX
  4. IIW32 in Review
  5. Microsoft Grant Program - Cryptosuite funding
  6. Workitem Status: PE (Maintenance) + Credential Manifest
  7. Workitem Status: VC Marketplace
  8. Outlook / Next Steps

Meeting - 19 Apr 2021 - (1300 ET) Recording

  1. Welcome and introductions
  2. Workitem Status: Presentation Exchange
  3. Workitem Status: Credential Manifest
  4. Workitem Status: VC Marketplace
  5. MetaMask Credentials (Spruce)
  6. IIW Discussion
  7. Outlook / Next Steps

Meeting - 22 Mar 2021 - (1300 ET) Recording

  1. Welcome and introductions
  2. Workitem Status: Presentation Exchange
  • Ratification of 1.0.0: "Workgroup-approved Status"
  • Submit to the Steering Committee
  • Point to implementations: Aca-Py now has PE implementation (Python), others...
  • Add Section to point to existing implementation.
  1. Workitem Status: Credential Manifest
  • Still going through some scoping / requirement engineering.
  • Biggest discussion: Should CM support to output multiple credentials.
  • Presentation of current resolutions
  1. Workitem Status: VC Marketplace
  • Moving it into Spec-up format
  • Filling the determined UC Categories with more content.
  1. Juan, quick overview UVI (Essiflab)
  2. Outlook / Next Steps

Meeting - 8 Mar 2021 - (1300 ET) recording

  1. Welcome and introductions
  2. Workitem Status: Presentation Exchange
  • Ratification of 1.0.0
  • All issues closed
  • Submit to the Steering Committee (Daniel Buchner)
  1. Workitem Status: Credential Manifest
  • Extract Styling Spec (Daniel Buchner)
  1. Workitem Status: VC Marketplace
  • How will the VCM handle registration crawling (Martin)
  1. LDAP VC method status
  1. Outlook / Next Steps

Meeting - 22 Feb 2021 - (1300 ET) recording

  1. Welcome and introductions
  2. C&C WG chair nomination successful
  3. Workitem Status: Presentation Exchange
  4. Workitem Status: Credential Manifest
  5. Workitem Status: VC Marketplace (Martin, Preliminary Results)
  6. Outlook / Next Steps

Meeting - 9 Feb 2021 - (1500 ET) recording

Agenda

  1. Welcome and introductions
  2. C&C WG participation tracking
  3. Agenda creation/review/prioritization
  4. Chair Appointment for the replacement of Gabe Cohen:
  • Current proposal is Daniel McGrogan (Workday)
  • Introduction: Daniel
  • Feedback & Confirmation
  1. Update Meeting Time Schedule: Proposal Biweekly Mo, 1300 ET
  2. Workitem Status: Presentation Exchange
  3. Workitem Status: Credential Manifest
  4. Workitem Status: VC Marketplace (Martin)
  5. Repo Introduction: Schema Forms:
  6. Outlook / Next Steps

Recap

  1. No other agenda points
  2. C&C Chair Proposal: Daniel McGrogan (Workday)
  • Met some community members at RWOT in Prague
  • Workday is looking for a practical and scalable solution around identifiers and VCs.
  • Focus on Expressibility of Credentials and Formats that allow for a richer Identity Ecosystem.
  1. Next Meeting 2/22, Mo, 1300 ET
  2. From Thursday: Workgroup Approved Draft. Implementation Commitments:
  • MS
  • Workday
  • Aries-Go
  • DIDKit (Rust) Brent has a big editorial PR left. Clarification around what the SPEC does not provide.
  1. First Review of the existing Strawman Features.
  2. Several Worflows provided by Affinidi Civic and Consensys. See VC Marketplace Repo
  3. Daniel present UIs that can be dynamically generated from JSON Schemas.

Meeting - 12 Jan 2021 - (1500 ET) recording

Meeting - 12 Jan 2021 - (1500 ET) recording

Agenda

  1. Welcome and introductions
  2. C&C WG participation tracking
  3. Agenda creation/review/prioritization
  4. Presentation by Alexander Yenkalov (Spherity)
  5. Accepted WorkItems:
  6. Workitem Status: Presentation Exchange
    Comments on the Draft are welcome through 03:59 UTC/GMT on 2021-01-22 (23:59 Boston time on 2021-01-22) and should be provided as issues raised on the specification’s GitHub repository.
    
  7. Workitem Status: Credential Manifest
  8. Workitem Status: VC Marketplace
  9. DIF F2F - Group Presentation
    • WorkItem Presentation: PE, CM, Marketplace
    • Community Feedback
  10. Outlook / Next Steps

Recap

Meeting - 15 Dez 2020 - (1500 ET) recording

Agenda

  1. Welcome and introductions
  2. C&C WG participation tracking
  3. Agenda creation/review/prioritization
  4. Workitem Proposal Review:
  5. Workitem Status: Presentation Exchange
    • Blog Article around the PE 0.1.0 Release
  6. Possible Future Workitems:
    • Credential Schemas and Ontologys
    • Credential Revocation
  7. Outlook / Next Steps

Recap

Status PE

  • Closing last issues for an official 0.1.0 transition
  • Please raise last-minute issues in person on Thursdays weekly meetings

Workitem Proposal Review:

  1. Credential Manifest (Kickoff on 12/17)
  • Credential Manifest Specification is in unchanged "Strawman" Status since the beginning of the year. Focus has been on the Presentation Exchange workitem.
  • With the release of PE 0.1.0 specification, we are "relaunching" the CM spec into official C&C workitem status
  • Thursday PE Meetings will transition into regular CM Meeting Specifications
  • 7-day objection period for workitem from today's meeting
  1. VC Marketplace
  • Foused on Use Cases (Outcome is not a specification, but User Journeys)
  • Example Use Case:
    • Incentives for the Credential Ecosystem: How can a Marketplace create natural incentive layers for issuing and exchanging verifiable credentials.
    • How can Marketplace layer accelerate the interoperability between different "identity networks"
  • Specification will likely generate requirements for existing specs like Presentation Exchange or Credential Manifest
  • 7-day objection period for workitem from today's meeting

Open Discussion

  • Aries RFCs and their Integration of PE and CM specifications.
  • Aries-GO plans full support of BBS+ and PE and the end of Q1/2021
  • Kunal: Status on Schema Work: Martin will reach out.

Meeting - 01 Dez 2020 - (1500 ET) recording

Agenda

  1. Welcome and introductions
  2. C&C WG participation tracking
  3. Agenda creation/review/prioritization
  4. Upcoming workitem(s) (proposals):
    • Credential Manifest
    • VC Marketplace
    • DIF-Managed Credential Ontology and Tooling
  5. Workitem Status: Presentation Exchange
  6. Outlook / Next Steps

Recap

  1. Introductions
  2. Update Jace around WACI
  3. Workitems:
  • Inform about VC Marketplace Workitem: Candidates:
    • In addition to existing: KILT, Civic
  • Credential Ontology and Tooling: What should the output to the group be: JSON Schemas, JSON-LD Contexts, Overlab with CCG Vocubulary. Workitem + Affinidi. Getting people at the table.
    • Martin will setup mail.
  • Recovation Workitem TBD (discuss with Gabe.)

Meeting - 17 Nov 2020 - (1500 ET) recording

Agenda

  1. Welcome and introductions
  2. C&C WG participation tracking
  3. Agenda creation/review/prioritization
  4. Bloom Presentation: The Wallet Credential Interactions Spec Proposal by Jace Hensley
  5. Next steps: Credential Schemas (e.g. Affinidi & others)
  6. MS Status Protocol Implementation (e.g. for Credential Revocation)
  7. Workitem Status: Presentation Exchange
    • Go Implementation Workday
    • JSONPath / Ontology Discussion Recap
    • Open Issues
  8. Workitem Status: Credentials Manifest calls
  9. Outlook / Next Steps

Recap

  • Intros: Jace from Bloom
  • WACI Interaction Spec (WAKEE)
  • Discussion around Credential Schema and Ontology for JWT AND JSON-LD Contexts.
  • Setup reusable artifacts to build ontologys, like template repositories. (e.g. base definition of spec and how to build novel ontologies from there). Example citizenship ontology. Generation as a npm package. Best practices. Reuse of existing URI. Action: Martin Setup concrete next steps for the next C&C meeting.
  • Presentation Daniel Buchner: Hash Field Status List. Privacy extensions to the bitstring recovcation list concept.
  • Workitem Status for PE & CM on Thursday.

Meeting - 03 Nov 2020 - (1500 ET) recording

Agenda

  1. Welcome and introductions
  2. C&C WG participation tracking
  3. Agenda creation/review/prioritization
  4. Affinidi Core SDK and industry-specific schema presentation by @Kamal Laungani (Affinidi).
  5. [All] IIW recap (in relation to C&C)
  6. Workitem Status: Presentation Exchange
  7. Talk about starting up Credentials Manifest calls
  8. Outlook / Next Steps (edited)

Recap

  • Introduction Kamal from Affinidi
  • IPR Reminder
  • New Agenda Point: Credential Manifest next steps
  • Affinidi Core SDK and industry-specific schema presentation by @Kamal Laungani (Affinidi).
  • [IIW Recap]:
    • Gabe: Hosted Session on Revocation @Workday. Contribute to DIF. Link to previous presentation at DIF.
    • Stephen: Talk about future Revocation Mechansims for Aries/Indy
    • Wayne: Presentation Exchange. Convergance of many standards with similar goals (OpenID Connect Credentials Profile: Verifiable Credential as Identity Token.). DID for generating Identity Token(?). SIOP. WebID. How to extend browser capabilities with a key-based credentialing system. (Overlap to Chapi) GNAP: "OAuth3".
    • Daniel: 2-3 new envelope formats. PE importance grows.
  • Presentation Exchange Status:
    • 2 PRs:
        1. Multiple Schema identifiers
        1. Holder Binding between credentials
    • Editoral side wrapping up
    • Test Vectors after a 1.0 Draft version
  • Workitem Credential Manifest
    • Reuse existing Presentation Exchange call time and shift focus towards Credential Manifest.
    • Review Daniel Status
    • First Meeting next Thursday

Meeting - 26 Oct 2020 - (1500 ET)

Agenda

  1. Welcome and introductions
  2. ID WG participation tracking
  3. Agenda creation/review/prioritization
  4. [All] IIW recap
  5. TBD

Proposals

-proposals here-

Attendees

-attendees here-

Old meeting page (before October 2020)

Old meeting page